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>> These guys have been written. That Are you guys at work They Might Be Giants. Anyway but we're not happen. To question my own without further ado. Thanks so much. This is Ryan. Works with us and. MATT Hi everybody thanks for having us by the way guys this place is pretty awesome Alison was trying to get me to do it and generally really nervous about doing this kind of stuff but when she showed me pictures of like Mario and I decided it would make me feel very comfortable which I really hadn't because I'm still pretty nervous but anyway.

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And the last time I was on the Georgia Tech campus was probably in like nine hundred eighty six sigma science Olympiad when I was just kind of math math but I had to do this event called bottle music where you fed up bottles with different amounts of Brodeur and made a song hit him with a spoon and I didn't want to do it so we pushed the kid that was holding our box a bottle so that they broke so that we didn't have to compete.

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So. It was a stay over night. And he tried to get me. In there like you know. They're like a cussword. So that everything would be OK and. Still going to have. In my head it was. Totally bought it. So anyway we do a Web site called. Women doing it for seven or seven years now and it is pretty much been our sole job for like the last five now.

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And it's just trash animated cartoons on the Web We make money by selling T. shirts we don't have any ads on the site or anything like that the only revenue is from people buying shirts and D.V.D.'s and the merchandise that we sell. On the site. And so anyway we were just so they asked us to this to do a little demo about how we do stuff and it's pretty funny because all these computers are decked out and much nicer than the computers that we make HOMESTAR on.

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Five which I think there are now so the version of Flash we use is about four four years outdated. For various lazy reasons mostly just not wanting to you know get used to the minor changes an interface and things like that only works faster. Way faster. Publish everything.

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Because it compresses everything so much more make you. Want to put it. On something really makes a difference. Under control sort of thing but it is beautiful and it was back before a baby sued Macromedia so they could have tabbed folders over here yeah I was like. You know my.

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Next question. But that was one of the biggest reasons why we kept using so much. So I was just going to share what we generally do is we've got you know several hundred cartoons at this point so obviously we don't. Read draw all the characters for every cartoon we can reuse graphics so we'll just open up as a library.

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That has say the background on it. So it's just like two hundred something there is great. Here. And Scott is for some reason called. Sky two it's been called Sky two that's probably for six years for no reason we've never changed it to just sky and then. A little bit of it we put over everything to give everything a nice rounded edge.

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Because round things. Well during the border up in front of them so anyway. This is The Magic Of Making Home Star walk so I got this walk clip. For a graphic that just loops. And we'll just tween it from. There to there. And then that point I've already broken him apart into four.

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Layers with each part being. A layer. And we animate everything at twelve frames a second. In one thousand nine hundred. And that's how we wanted to animate so we have rarely. Done a few things that eighteen or twenty four frames a second of course it takes this way longer so we stick with twelve.

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It's fun and we are going to do. I wanted to think at the beginning you know like. One of the characters will always come out over it in order for that background to look good in Flash we have to make it thirty frames per second and I think I was just.

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Twenty nine times I don't know whatever. And so then we have to make the characters of thirty transfer so that's a huge you know just like taking like she was like a cheat when he turns around it's like two frames and you just. Have to like make some frame turning and.

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Things were the way they were you know so. Much Plus we do you know we try to make a five minute cartoon pretty much every week. To make that possible. At least for us I'm sure there are people that can do it for us it's the way we.

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See that goes Look he stopped walking on I mean this was and this is this is a trick patented it's called the point where it just kind of goes up and down when you're transitioning from one thing to another you just make him kind of pop up a little bit for some reason it makes it look better we learned that people call that in the cartooning industry we just graduated from scat It's called squash and stretch you know.

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Like no that's that's another thing we. Were totally self-taught animator is an illustrator and I was a photography major University of Georgia went to film school. And then we both kind of realized we didn't want to do that as our careers and just started teaching ourselves Photoshop you know straighter and flash and HOMESTAR was originally just a tool something to learn flash with because we're going to try to get jobs you know I was at making banner ads for you know I Spock's dot com or whatever was the.

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Work that mine spring and then which became Earth Link for several years. Yet we just discovered out. Buried in some of the front pages there are still some that you made like six years ago or something the earth personal start counting banking sections. I'm not going to show my kids HOMESTAR on one.

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You know. Like market. One graph going up and it's red and green. Which is. Going to make them say a line of dialogue and. No no no you're just going to say why this is one of the things we'd love. To get to probably several things we've tried to have people tell us you know you can do that and.

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This is something I don't think you can. Show so like his head is here on frame to another thing that you know people will know flash if you make everything assemble and put every symbol on its own layer it just makes things a lot easier from an organizational standpoint so to make them start talking about three.

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Faces close mouth. And that now. Square mouth and close mouth so it's really easy to animate we accidentally made all these characters very easy to animate most of them don't have arms or legs several don't have mouths or anything like that and we you know created the characters in one thousand nine hundred six before we were ever going to animate and so we totally wiped out the characters that do have arms and like elbows and things you know we just tend to not put in cartoons very much.

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As always behind Yeah so you don't have to mess with it but I just flick in elbows. So anyway it's three frames and I've got it set to a single frame so when he's not talking is just going to stay closed but if I put it. Right if I put a key frame in make it go to frame three.

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And so I can just click on this frame and this is one of the things. The difference between eight and five and five. I can just click on these frames and I can still hear the sound. So I know right there he stops saying so and so I can put that.

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He's starting to say. So I can make that and then I can just cut and paste. Right now I just cut and pasting frames route and keep going back down here to type in frame two or three I know which ones are which. We don't necessarily know most of you can probably flash animation better than we were so we're not saying.

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I don't even know what he's saying here so it would help if I listened to the sound byte so I knew what he was saying I recorded this right. This is my talk and. Thank you thing. We have volume. So I can just sit here and click until he starts to say my so you have Flash and Rush eight I would have to sit there and do that yeah if you drag it across you'll hear the sound when you click on the frame you don't hear about one little like you know sound which is makes it so much easier when you're.

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Alone It's one of the reasons why we still use the five year old. Six year old. Saying. Going to go that's another thing with Star and given its old friends from Saigon I mean you could we could add about you know. Like another in-between. Square mile for something like that but like it actually twelve frames per second you know much more in between you're not going to see that much more he has already hard enough now sometimes you have to decide where he closes his mouth because he sort of closes not halfway in between two frames and.

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Instead of what I would do probably is a good head. And he's kind of. Make a move around a little bit maybe for an interesting line like. I'm going to try to a little harder to make better but. Actually I might I probably wouldn't try Matt's generally a better animator So any time you see really like this like I am strong bad animation that's me and.

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Move around a little more I'm just trying to plow through. That generally I do about like I don't know seventy percent seventy sixty to seventy five percent of a cartoon I do and then Matt as many complicated scene with a lot of characters or with exactly some kind of action other than just characters talking and spend like five days on the run then I'll just plod through the rest of the cartoon in my goals while I'm recording stuff starts.

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Breaking it apart and all that stuff just getting. Starting placings new graphics if there's a need you need new drawings we try to read you stuff as much as possible but never to believe there's going to be some objects or backgrounds or something that we need to draw we'll start out and we can be like this you know last week was rough we would like to read all nighters to get this cartoon done so this one will try and stick with just you know not to make it jokes we've done before but just take place involves a concession stand or place that we've already established and evidently we end up with like inventing a movie theater for this cartoon or like having some new thing happen that we have to make a bunch of new things were always shooting ourselves in that way.

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When I wanted to show a show on the cartoon so show him something in action. So this is how they are and H.T.M.L. I do. Want to tell them what this is so this is just we're putting out another D.V.D. It's time or another thirty strong down and so are we we compile them on to D.V.D. at that point and out of with extra features and commentary like crap and so we try to put you know bonus stuff on it to make it worthwhile So this is a bonus email it's going on the news strong you know this is a question a strong read gets a lot and so we finally just as a bonus thing we decided we'd answer it.

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The OK for thirty or more are our birthright I have to work to get the hell are ya gonna be around OK we've got all her and her. Favor right. There are already. Hard our viewers are Robert Right right right my daughter of her right. There or if you're on the break her would grow if you want that I really fucking love her I'm more.

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You're. Right you're. Wrong you're a friend and I think there's. Right. So that's that's kind of. That's what we do that's strong bad email is the cartoons we do probably two or three out of every four updates is one of those we've done hundred seventy something at this point.

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Over the last five or six years. Making Strong Bad waggle around in front of the text and making the text animate that's one of them my specialty is that it. Is really not fun to animate text being typed across the street screen but. Anyway we tried to try to figure out a way to automate flash can't can't look at a way well like interpret what it.

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Wanted to figure out a way we're going to bring in the sound file strong have it be like OK when it gets loud and. Then we can just like plug it in and. Nobody. I found a few things laying around my file for my folder that we've never done anything with and most I don't even know why I made them.

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So I'm sorry just with a helmet knee pads. I don't know if you have a. Monster Truck one. That's a good idea that's another thing there's a there's a. Thing a home star with a lot of that is. I think you're right. And we use that logic any time they have like a Dr I haven't tried it because it's all just whatever just people volunteering to do it and their cost of bandwidth and everything else is just.

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Because we use it probably more than. We're going to go away you know they are made for no reason. But we have we use that with you all the time because we'll be like well you know start to make a cartoon and be like I was so our bubs has a toilet brush of the toilet brush and some cartoon and.

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Not done animated keep on truckin. Is not from a sketch book thrown out as a sketch but made of that and I just decided that I haven't gotten very far but I always got the real. You know this is the one I found this morning I had no idea why I made it or whether this was.

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The style. Yeah. I think. We're going to do one where it looks like it's kind of a rough animatic you know you see the pencil in between drawings of like Disney cartoons and stuff before that. That's all you know I spent like five minutes. But it was just making sure it could work and look you know look OK.

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The Marvel Way. By the way anyone if you've got questions during that if you can feel free to ask questions or. Yeah. That's one of our. Well it's long dreams we've got a friend who programmed games for the twenty six hundred and actually makes cartridges and so we started talking to him three or four years ago and we want to do you know actually make a Atari game you know in two thousand and four or whatever so I'll come out you know so that even funnier when it comes out in two thousand and twelve producing the Atari twenty six hundred game how do I do this.

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Can I just do this. All right so false alarm but anyway. You know really is a cartridge and so we. Graphics were like a grid of apps tricks that you had to make some graphics just a template and it was just a text file but yeah it was like it was like sixteen.

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Sideways asterisks and stuff you want to. Dash that or something and so you're making them sideways. And. This is the. Georgia Tech reference on the site we made a video game that tried to be like the worst video game ever. It was like track and field or one of those games we have to match but it's really fast but it was a race walking game and.

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You have to press the left and right alternately but you can't go too fast or you literally I think would take like a day to win to go fifty K. It was like several days or so but anyway so we made it for no reason you could totally customize the way the character looked and.

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There's four or five. Or five people that we made where if you make it look a certain way and I think that. Yeah. I think that's right yeah it becomes. Who. Center for attack a few years ago. And then he was trying to. Go. Nothing so fast and watch how long do you.

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Want to least get through. This next hash mark. And that's probably one. Of the that's a hundred to one kilometer or so that's like one five thousand for the game or something but I think eventually maybe if you get it you know if you get it so if you actually do a whole kilometer.

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Blank screen starts to black out he walks into blackness and we have we didn't program this far I think that if we had a bad one somebody like e-mailed us a few days later was like hey I got up to three kilometers really really been doing. So we figured we should have anyway and we had a pretty got to factor in a few faults to sit there for like five seconds after you make a footfall.

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Yeah there was some e-mail where you know where someone announces Strong Bad is the rambling mail check yeah which is that's you know the other trying to figure out if there are any Georgia Tech reference. Which is pretty good because there's no like Georgia references there Florida State I mean Charley got references to everything when there were somebody there from Tallahassee and he pronounces it.

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So let's take questions we were on a question that we're down. Or based on at Amberley drawing books which is these things I want to hear you know try Mozart like you know to draw an alligator. Trying. Trying. To you know broken all down and so rigidly that you know it's going to be mostly about white how to draw.

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Right. So strong. We had someone we tried to find it actually to bring it up she. Was. From So you can buy it and you can see like the sort of the evolution of you know I go we like the beefy arm sticking out of the back and revisit it so it is like twenty or thirty different variations some of which are pretty hilarious Some are just flat out alligators.

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And the. Song at the end of it was a complete afterthought sort of like we were making the. Wrong. Finishing up and you know we worked all night and. I think. It was. Like Well now we have to make. You know. Here's something else I forgot to show that there's a fake heavy metal band that strong dad's favorite band called limousine and so in making we made a real album and had to make some fake album covers and one of the things I made was I wanted to make limousine like doing like you know gang symbols out of fingers and so I tried to do it maybe recently the idea was going to be like a hot woman like red like red fingernails and like make spelling a limousine with her finger somehow so I did a test to see how it would look and most of the scene was.

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So gross like ease or all fat and stuff. Really just to look for those soft movies that we had for years. I thought we might get arrested if we published them a lot of. Any other. They guy from harmonics Alex for gospel is just the ability was a big fan and you know there was like hey would you guys I'm going to put you know a track and as a bonus track he asked about one of the songs from doors on Guitar Hero two for the Play Station and I've been on lockable track and you have they were just random contracted out pretty awesome and.

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It's funny you can see I was like you know you know wanted to like repay the favor like I was there anything you know I'll send him whatever and he was like I've already got everything I think I'll send you some T. shirts and some D.V.D.'s like I've already got and all.

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You're doing is like well kind of pretty much. That was pretty cool to find out that most of the stuff we rarely saw out any of the cool collaboration that we've been able to do over the years and it just lucked out that people were just like contact me.

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And I just lazy. Like what are you. Confrontational way to do. Something and wait for people to come you know. That's the moral. Anybody else yes. A lot of last. Year's. Top twenty six things first. Question. Because they were like. Players are just and we just we just talked about that I can last week or two but what we wanted to make it was the excuses blog and we were only updated when we don't update the website.

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So we always have a really good reason we never just like blow it off it's always like we're working on it like we're working on some other project or like or something going on having a baby or something and so we were just like every need to start the excuses blog section and just like every time we don't update it's like hey look you know and maybe throw a little bit of what we're at the other thing I'm working on or something or like when you think it's we've got to work on the D.V.D. like you'd like the week when we made that accent you know it just sucks like we made this awesome email and.

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Next Monday we had to make another car. Made a car and so there you. Were thinking about it because it's the sort of thing where we felt like it was sort of a piece people like you know so maybe they were. When we don't know people would because I'm not going back home sort of Mormon they don't know anymore or something like that.

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So maybe. Your blog. Question behind someone I can see yeah. Yeah we're trying to go how many who show a small clip of that we could turn the audio down maybe they wouldn't care about you know we don't know that it's so cool working with them is another thing that they just gave them a thing like in the same day we got a package from.

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Jim on one of the producers of Mystery Science Theater. And when. He sent us a service on the same day we got a. Got an e-mail from. Just like. The next day. Or so but they're so cool they're really laid back and like there's never we've never had any contract sort of treatments in any of the stuff we've done I mean like we made a video for them it was on M.T.V. It's on P.B.S. their stuff you know their song is on our D.V.D. and like they've never made a thing so it's funny because we're working on this thing for them now and I have no idea we haven't we haven't talked about it we're getting paid for it we have there's been no discussion of contract or we don't have to sign a non-disclosure agreement so it's funny I was like I'd like to sort of show you this is a little bit it was a song might be maybe they wouldn't want people to hear this song it's a kid's they've got some kids D.V.D.'s there's one called Here Come the A.B.C. is in this is called Here Come the one two three this is here for that number eight race car driving and kids ice skating in.

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Things like that this was actually something we animated eighteen. Kind of just because we knew it would. Not spread of his robots. Don't nobody talk about these robots on your blog now. But I mean yes we're actively doing this right. It's been cool because it changes us like not like just some kids something.

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Like. Well. I'm out here you're robots awesome Thanks Mike I wanted to see them. Kind of transform or thereabouts. Yes. And it sure does somebody have a question for a character that's. Just like. You have a question. I push on you where you know what. I think that's the last question that I.

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Read or I would like an over here from where I go back to the guy who got to Mr Rhodes was it a long road and like monkeys you know I can't talk like no matter what our vocal chords can support human speech you know and I wouldn't From what I've you know I've had to pull stuff out of his throat some time to jokes and it didn't look like you could talk and then all of a sudden start making cartoons and you go into the secret room where he does the voice of so I never see how because it comes out and sounds just like this and it's.

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Very. You know the major thing I love about it. Is you have many more questions for human beings because all of this not. You know. I didn't do everything. But I don't call it a little bit I don't know if you would want to make me a cut.

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That would be great just so you know it was made of dry. Being something you had to level. Of on the job. Like caveman drawings. That you could become I think if. You did you have a human. We have a little like a sound fairly it's not sound.

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But it's better than better than sitting in front of the computer in our old crappy apartment. That we run into we just have a decent you know like we've got whatever a low impedance one that you know after like three feet it just stops recording sound. And we go into a U.S.B. preamp.

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Audio mix which is great it's got a quarter inch and that just goes U.S.B. into the computer and we. Again use like a five year old copy of. Stuff now it's. Also. Just so. It's good that it doesn't record sound after about three feet because then old recordings when we had an apartment together you could hear me I doing the dishes there's one sound I don't find the front of worms and I learned to have them made for something that was a sound of this like.

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Like squishing that we've used forever and you can hear I think you recorded sound actually yeah hear me whistling in the background we still use it it's. I've tried to sort of get the whistle out of it but I kind of like which one is that was. Is there anyone from the wiki here you have to maintain pages which is a graveyard seven OK There you go so you know what you like every other main character we do that about a hundred times there is one so.

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I can listen at the end you'll hear you'll hear me whistling and it's pretty. Good i really. Think it. Was one you can notice improve there's one how you can clearly hear a truck driving back and the window is open we had this apartment I had no air conditioning I mean it's just awful in the summertime and so you just have the window open and you can hear dogs barking and trucks and stuff but there's a.

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Watch out of home so I was a little tables going over the couch and I. Was already up what. I do you know the question. Probably not I don't I think it would be I'm going to the wiki there's nothing we can't hide anything it's funny because then people started watching it.

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Like they watch it full screen and so you can see all this other crap that we kind of don't want you to see on this slide is just like you know the edges of the graphics and things and so like when homes are walks and he just disappears you know what you like and the frame or whatever if you watch it it's nice to watch it I understand but then you get all this extra crap to kind of make the cartoon so that's why for a while we made the border huge like this symbol was gigantic So that like when you even if you watched it all the way like it was.

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So because people are going to start poking around like the you know decompiler flash files and look and stuff and so we started adding a few things here and there for the nerds to do that so you know that's like there's one where they used to go home stars appear like it appears that there's two hundred stars like you barely see the size of the frames like a cartoon so you need to make it consistent with.

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In the universe one of them has a mustache but you only see it if you like. To go about. And then what else there is something where recently strong about almost. I think people always ask about the characters parents and we just don't want to touch. With this one which one is it's but no it's the charity it's the care and so he we decided we would you act like you're showing us parents when something's in the way you can just photograph so if you compile and look at that symbol it's not it's like nice try something like that.

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So we had. This like technical flash. Of a virus or. That it was. Right. Because. I don't have that e-mail you don't have one hundred sixty two I was looking for nice try to do. It. We don't have it here look and we. Really were just we want a big long.

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Takes a long time and you don't think it's like six months to make. King's Quest like graphic text adventure and most of our video games and most of the games we make on the site are intentionally like one nine hundred eighty five to one thousand nine hundred nine ERA graphics we try to make them fun unlike the one we showed you have to.

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Actually play more from the now on but anyway so I was just lamenting the fact I think it's been almost three years since the first one came out and you know it's just not gotten around there's a like a six month process you know. Process to make the whole thing so when Mike and I want to you know.

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Yes somebody else. Also coming up probably will come before presidents Quest actually that's totally in the works and what we're going to do is. Maybe I'm going to go along ads midpoints digital stews because people always complain that it's too annoying and hard for an admin points to the level and maybe so why play here just a command theme song that would never be used.

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And. I'm. I'm sure I didn't do any more animation for a. Green number on. You know some people the guys from divisions no book just. Humorous talk about Alabama that's kind of broken up now yeah. They've got a long time ago they're saying guys who did this cartoon called The Ballad of the snake on the website.

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I guess. I just. Go. Both ways will do will well look through the e-mails we have a good one folder that will be fun and we think it's good to separate just like we do not necessarily right then it starts to write itself but just like a lot has been central and so we always go back and look at the good ones.

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Sometimes there's times where it's like OK we want to do an e-mail about this so let's search and fortunately he gets enough e-mails that you can usually just go reverse engineer it yet do a search for that word and see that you know they'll be five or six emails about to go on to the best like that actually I won because like I said that was one that we wrote a long time ago because we get that question all the time like I'll be an easy one so you just accent and you know whatever and Thunderbird and I probably have like thirty different results for things so I just pick the one that we like the best.

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And then for as far as just straight up writing for like cartoons and even for e-mails we usually. We're pretty tapped out by Monday or Tuesday whenever we put up the cartoon so we can you know take a. One of those days starting on Wednesday we just like you for long walks trying to eat it eat it we have places to make us think of funny stuff or just you know just try to get whatever just right where we work it's pretty you know we work in a kind of depressing strip mall which is always good kind of depressing you know in a good way to other places of business Piccadilly cafeteria.

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Hearing aid store you know medical supplies store like canes and walkers Yeah yeah an adult diaper store everywhere like a wholesaler Yeah yeah scooters and then there's like a Family Dollar and a big loss I mean everything goes right for old people or you know so it's pretty good so we're in the basement there nobody knows what we do we just.

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Lock the door and people like always try to open the door it's been a couple times we don't lock the door and people just go ahead and I think and we're I don't know what they are but they're just like Comments like a leaf please. And you know yeah.

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I. Don't I mean today we're looking for want to really go have an idea to go for me there or just like you know the media unfortunately breakdown like you know five categories that are the same so it's like having to find ones that are like you know.

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It's like even if it's like you know it's a different question but it's kind of the same character trying to going to try to keep it fresh. I mean people just want him to drop. Fifty percent you know Ronald Reagan or drop. A girlfriend for the our girl from the trunk or.

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What. Do we ever do that you know making an email him doing that like years of the asking about his parents. Get him to do the voice. I just don't know the business you know the online store. You know lurking in the shadows. On the laws of physics.

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Pretty good. Right out of the room where. It's a little more obscene but I'm. Here. No Mike I was just because I was the youngest and want attention so I had some way to. Also just watch so I mean watched like Bugs Bunny cartoons and he had a very good memory so he was just always you know talking Simpsons or old Bugs Bunny cartoons and doing the voices and Mr turnips needs algebra class what I didn't realize in my voice was she had a teacher Mr Turner really was.

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I could do it with my voice was changing it was only that it was a short window of opportunity I could do a really good Marsh and Mr C. would like to have me do it for the class but I just it was just I think I just like.

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My voice was like. No I never got any formal training or anything like that. But I don't know where you start when I first started making a cartoon Mike was just like I'm not going to make something right what about Seems like I'm not doing it because he was OK He was to do this really depressing Midwestern guy or something we'd just be hanging out or something and that would just turn into this really depressing guy.

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Things are going good and so he was actually I mean coach he's become pretty. I just like to get drunk instantaneously sometimes and things like that and this guy was even more depressing than. Anybody else. Seventeen minutes left guys c'mon. I'm not really that came from I don't even know I mean it was an email that somebody sent actually one of the I think is the only strong bad email that was not something stronger that was actually sent to Mike and I.

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Didn't say here is wrong about something we changed it was just like an email they were like and you know what you meant when you make a cartoon of me and my friend I'm assuming it's this girl that was like you know what do you make of my friends hear their names like I go for it was just wrong did you actually do that no I don't think I did.

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But I try to not because it's like real people. Answered and that was just. You know we just really did it and I decided to give you something. And I actually that's one of my favorites like that's another thing we don't do is often it's really it's much easier you know obviously to make there's not a lot of.

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Just drawing and what we try and so we could crank because I don't like we try to keep it so it feels I got something we could have made something already go like you try if you like a group of girls and you can all these much more.

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Lives. Yeah that would be if we were going by like Mozart it's possible to have been ten years old or like whatever. They're not there yet. Right so. Yeah I think it's definitely just that's just the way we were I mean we are. Screwing around with each other and like in our whole family like a whole family and.

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So like we just sort of making the cartoons are sort of abuser so. You know we were always encouraged when people would say that exact thing and you know I don't know if that is just. Shows in cartoons being over written and written by ten people over a period of months and sort of loses any sort of that but that was once there yeah.

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I don't mean this in a derogatory way but it sort of. I think we're all. Coming out and like you know it gets down to where something comes out of it. You know it's like very itchy and scratchy. And. There are twenty writers. This cartoon that was it was like a thirty minute long and it was mainly just getting it getting you know.

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You know whatever but I was like really want to be like OK and then something comes out that I've never come up with that is why stop there's a lot of. People writing. You know and like I said I'm not part of this I was just surprising to me that it was like.

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You know like a lot of. Things we do all our stuff pretty much we try to put on a new cartoon on Monday and back in the day used to be written and produced all day Sunday but these days it's a little more usually we're writing Thursday and Friday and Saturday we're sort of recording and getting stuff done and then Sunday is American session of animating So everything's written and produced and within two or three days of you've seen it sort of sort of an immediacy to it that wouldn't be you know that's why we.

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Always not been interested in doing T.V. where you've got to write episode six months in advance and it just would lose some of the spontaneity of the writing you know you don't overthink something and not put it in there whereas now we're just like four in the morning I get to do that and you know it's a double edged sword sometimes that's probably terrible results but sometimes.

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Yeah. It's mostly the pressure we know we try not to disappoint fans and I think that for me anyway it's more incentive to do something to stay up late to you know just give the people a bit of supported us you know what they're expecting so it's not you know we're not trying not to any financial things influence what we do you know what we've got we get we got to this point.

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Now to start a business we were just kind of amusing ourselves so it was like to get it to where it is so it's like if we started to think really go we bring this character back because it was a big seller you know change it probably made it worse so yeah it's definitely been a challenge you know going from it be enough spare time something we do for fun into our job there is that sort of balance that you've got to.

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Deal with but we try not to let you know money side effect any of the creative side of. Our sister lives and. There's really she does. He physically. You have. To work. Here. Again we were friends with them before and we just had friends that are in good company here so I made some puppets and if it wasn't for that we would've never gotten compensated.

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Yeah. You know it's. Really one time. Really. There's a lot we don't talk to a lot and we have to be kind of headed down to trying to do something every week you know for us anyway. But it's not a red versus blue peter told me that the guys from red versus blue they're all nice.

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And I actually didn't like what was that so I was at South by Southwest. The guy does Dinosaur Comics and the Dinosaur Comics. Really good. Stuff I think the website. We my just bought me some stuff for Christmas from there and the guy was like saw his email address getting off on it I thought and so he came became sort of just you know.

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So we. Yeah I don't know it's a sort of thing where we're not trying to be like anti social but we don't. If we saw it like support from the rest of the like you know web comic what cartoon community we could hopefully find it but I don't we just haven't like just trying to put all of them out of business anyway so it's best if we don't know who they are.

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There's a question of that. We have the right. With us you know I think. You know we didn't bring any march I'm sorry. It's pretty easy most of the ones with the characters now we started making the shirts that aren't like a character it's like when I said my baby got to go by very old and sharp.

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And I thought he had the longest electric five and it's just gone it. Was I had like we're now begging for more that we would wear I mean. We didn't want to wear the characters before and we used to know back in the days before like anybody you know what we were doing.

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But now it is you know I don't know people I don't know who we are recognized but it would be weird to be like you know you're wearing your shirt and sort of like you know hey you're one of the homes that are guys like you know I was I saw I saw Stone Cold Steve Austin in the airport a few years ago and he had a hat and jacket on and I saw him from a foreign potties trying to you know blend in and then tell I notice he's wearing a stone cold shirt you have had to shift like going to try to Brandon about.

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Everybody yeah OK this guy I don't know how you guys are. Just like. If you. Just say what's the good word. You're going to do what you can you explain it briefly what I do the tradition is you say what's the good word. Response to help with Georgia what's a good word we say you know George you know what's good we're you know with George and you say about ten dollars dollars.

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I've said I do have my I'm not comfortable with this mean a huge you know my one two Yeah I don't know if. You know. We just. Want. To. Do this yeah I do it sure and so I say with the good words. What's the good word so that is just.

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What I can write remember what it is they're getting a good word for it was I was about to start on fire and thought of that in. The article that yeah I know it was hard hard for the underdog dogs hate God. Because that's really what you get if there's a book I like so much you want to envision a pretty.

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You know you're going to be under the radar and I think that was the most disturbing thing I was like they have the caliber in prison on hot was going to be a non you know there are no hard feelings of anger burning are never. I want to shout about one little talk about his daughter made every.

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Day. I. Bet you five hundred dollars to fit. Anything other than we're almost out of time yeah. What do we do from we go we live in Decatur and all our homeowners are hanging out at each other's Ryan's got an awesome Portree grill out of Ryan's home rumors that we would go to drink Ryan's beer and as I was I did good we got a I got a Nintendo we that I don't play because I'd like to.

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So we you know we like video games we play basketball so we shoot hoops in the morning sometimes we try to do other dumb creative stuff on the side like my just got this I grind sure run for the Warriors my plan that. Morning to smiling as I was on so we're always trying to do other guy you know for not doing I'm sorry does sometimes not and that's what kept you out but it's a nice thing like doing that that they might be giants like videos is actually fun sometimes to do something that's not you know what's real like yeah yeah we're making we're trying to like tearing each other to just make short films and the like the idea was that like within two hours you had to make a movie and I didn't have a D.V.D. that you could bring over somebody's house and made real quick.

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Where do we hang out to hang out our houses. Remember to cater becoming domesticated mice got a baby I got one of the way. So. So you got to come over and. You want to bring our A little. So. You know that this guy is a master sketch up over here.

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But about. They more questions but you know. I have a poster over here and you guys are welcome to sign it so you can show your appreciation for Homestar Runner write little notes but don't write a book because like there's a lot of people like me some room on there and I.

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Just want to give my and for taking Thanks guys.