One. Does this work. That's fine and well you know. It's. I'm not sure you know. You should let me just do this again off on a sort of. Other is you know people who are healthy and fit. OK for me. OK So this is I'm going to talk about an element of the learning of us would probably say some problem. This is joint work that I mean and Sharon Kyra. So so let me first tell you what the public system problem is I think most of you know and I'm just going to appeal to authority and take this call from good in and when that is perhaps the most well known committal optimization problem. So I believe people we should know and and one would ask why do people work on it and this is beautiful call from us try work. In is a nice book on chemical optimization that it belongs to the most seductive problems uncommented optimization pass to a blend of complexity applicability and appeal to magination. This talk would mostly be about the complexity of the problem not the applicability. About the problem. Especially like talking about heads architect which is I think where it has had great impact on especially a particular view about this problem. So I want to make sure it's what I want to talk about is merely the complexity of this problem. So and to give you prove that it is the it is popular problem. This is a poster with a script from the T.S.P. don't get it but if you say it was a contest which was run by Procter and Gamble in nineteen sixty two. It's a long time back it's a very similar to the Netflix price that was there all of which people might know now was kind of Netflix price of the one nine hundred sixty S. But the goal was to find a traveling salesman to which business I think around a bunch of twenty five cities in the US. Find the shortest to. Somebody sources of quality a million actually one displace. Somebody such as from Carnegie Mellon actually won this prize. OK So them anyway. And so let me just tell you a couple of them that we're going to talk in work with this and doc. One is a basic is the metric D.S.P. and so in this problem. What you're given is a complete wrap with some metric somatic means of distances that satisfy triangle inequality and the goal is to find a homage to a cycle of the shortest length letter for example if my graph is this. I have these cost or one. It is there to cost. It is not a company graph. But let's assume the edges which are not there also cost to write so the shortest two with look something like this or use two edges of cost one and three as a cost to sort of the solution is eight and one can of if I there's not a shorter time in a cycle at least in this small graph. OK. From approximation I would point of view. That's what we want to work on days of beautiful alchemy Christof it is and will come back to this later. Approximation in this was in one thousand nine hundred six. It's beautiful out there. Thomas very nice simple is usually the force. Algorithm one teaches also in one one introduces approximation I will terms. For a special class of Matrix people have tried to improve it was ample R O N ninety seven had a breakthrough in Euclidean matrix. So if your point you have points given in let's say some Euclidean plane in are two hundred businesses are you clean in distance and now you want to find the shortest to which. So the four that you can actually get a one plus Upsilon approximation for any fixed epsilon So prosecution scheme. You can get are pretty close. Of course. Running time of the I will turn would go exponentially in Epsilon one of it's on the hardness it cannot be approximate better than one point zero one I talk about later that you actually put a fence. We have this is probably better Impala. So and there was a conductor actually which is nice injector. I tried to pull a preferences for it but I'm not completely sure I have to ask. But I think one of the first thing I could find was in goatees a woman's who said the right answer should be foretold not the half. It might be older. Also this conjecture although I'm not completely sure about that. And I'll tell you where December fourth would actually comes from that it's not that we're just pulling it out of the hat or something. But there are some lateral reasons why the right answer should be foretold So this is one problem. The other way in which is also which will be actually quite useful for us. Also is is a generalization of this problem is a matter to speak. So generalization is as follows. We do not assume the distances between you and we and we are you or you are equal. Actually they could be different. So the we is not necessarily equal to. D. B. you get. For this there was an eighty two by phrase governor. R.T.M. a few only which was along an approximation and then. Very recently there was a paper by Assad or Marty who just gave a nice talk about all the result of ACE and Karen and so Barry. If you were not going to log an approximation. But had a conflict actually for this problem. I would say these things are even more open here than I We don't know what that ancestry half of voters here we don't know what the right answer is logon to or even to a lot of people who believe the right answer might be too approximation. Pardon. Yes but I think is the right answer. Or yes yes so tried there are sit back and inequalities but only on better triangles. So so there is still so in all of these we assume directed by inequality if you do not as you bring in inequality even for this. Symmetric case. You cannot approximate the problem at all to any parliament factor is as hard as hamiltonian path or having to cite or just taking the graphics on it as I feel so I can't seem to get this working but to. So let me just so there is one of the reasons that really comes so why with this board number forty comes in because of this lunar program so this and want to spend some time on this new program and we were just going to be crucial. So it's a very simple in a program that was started in great detail by Helen cow in one hundred seventy and the leader program to say is the following. How one for one variable for each age which is indicated really well but I'm going to pick it in my cycle are not in my solution I'm not objective function is clearly to minimizing the cost of the edges I pick. I want to say for each word like saying that OK you pick two it is that it were tax rate one like exactly five you have to cycle and have these cut constraints which says that OK out of any cut you have to pick at least two edges if it's a non-trivial cut if the subset of what is not all suitable This is you must go into each subset and you must go out of its opposite is called up to elimination usually the is written in a different form but I'm going to write in the Scott form that. The couple of things to not all here is the optimal piece clearly less and less than optimal solution is a lower bound. Solution is a feasible solution to your program as always. The other thing is that this can be solid. The couple of ways to do it is one is that you give a separation Oracle for this problem and then up then use the two. And if you think for a second that the separation Oracle is really the main cut algorithm. You just want to check for whether each cut the milk out of the graph is listened to or not but that's that's basically the little so this can be solved the other ways to solve it. You can write an equal int formulation which is Parliament sized. OK so. So what actually. Nice in Christopher he showed that he ordered three of approximation. So short that. It's no more than three after I'm stopped and little we'll see actually sure that Christopher These are with them or does the solution which nobody three thousand was that it is a strong result because of the not. Is a lower bound. So like any sort of like we'll go with most of the proof actually over this and that's really one of the starting points of our algorithm as well. So he should do something. And moreover there was this nice example if you haven't seen this before. It's like I want to point to must I wanted but there is an example. A very nice simple example which where the optimum solution is actually much higher than the linear problem solution. Remember leader program solution only law it's it's something lower than optimal solution and the ratio can get is actually for third. So if I look like. Look at the integral of the gap of the P. which is the matter which I defined to be the maximum of the ratio of the optimal P.. This example shows it's no more than it's at least four told the maximum because there is a particular instance where it's foretold and just a few days after the term and the argument of also shows as no more than a three have. When somewhere between four third and Korea and the connection was basically the right answer is for third then you might think maybe just because we found one examples where people tried also looking at all. Of the examples and even doing some experiments so people have for example enumerated all graphs all instances of size of collecting sixteen or twenty and they have really found out this is the worst example. Essentially you can. It's a family of examples and their character is all examples which have the worst case in technology out. OK So what are those that actually gives is some evidence that the right answer is not a half. So it doesn't prove a smaller than that but gives some evidence that it is smaller than three yards doesn't show that it's close to four total and they so let me just give what our result is be sure that there exists a point normal time three hundred minus epsilon approximation algorithm for the graphical T.S.P.. Where if someone has some fixed costs and greater than zero. So does not. Size of instance is some pics constant grade and zero. So I have to tell you know what graphical P.S.P. is graphical D.S.P. is a special. Class of matrix which is defined as follows I give you an weighted graph. It's not a complete love anymore so I give you some unweighted graph and my metric is just sort of part distances between. This between any pair of what is in this graph and of course if this graph is weighted is equal to all metrics. But this is a subclass of all metrics and these are and this problem is called graphical T.S.P.. Actually this problem also equal and to the following problem. I give you this graph instead of thinking of making the complete of as a metric. I just want to visit every word takes at least once and find a two which is every word except least once you maybe said What is more than one twice and come back to the final vertex so insentient something that does exactly the problem that we saw that's exactly graphical T.S.P. you can think of it in these two different ways. OK so my I'll try to give you some idea about how we actually get this result. But do not have to introduce one concept and that's going to be very crucial. This is a concept of uniform London for spanning three decisional spanning trees which is a following. So. If so was I give you some numbers for each of my graph with a lambda easy for each easy and I want a distribution which has a falling property that the that the particular T. The Probably that I actually get a particular tree is a proportional to the product of the lambda yes it so that this this kind of measure for a particular number and want to call lambda uniform distribution. OK So let me give you an example suppose that you have this graph and lambda is for these two edges as one and four. This is half. So this graph has three police responding trees. So you can see these two trees these two trees will have the same problem it is because. The lambdas are the same a half and business which is really going to be very crucial for allowed them. So it's a very nice image of crude by a supporter doll with a use for. This image P.S.P. is that if I give you a free fashion solution of the sub to LP which was LP for the for the tally system problem. Then I actually can find a lumber uniform measure or disparities of the graph such that the probably actually use some for any is the marginal value of the probably that this edge is in the three you sample is that essentially very close to the LP value of that edge. OK So in some sense this is like you can find a lump you can find a bunch of these lambdas weights for these edges. So that you sample from this resubmission that probably get. And you look at the edge and you see what the transit I want to get this as in my sample T. is actually essentially follows your L. L. P. value so much in US are exactly what you want in some sense. This is paper was there to go but they proved it for under it. The only under today's no no no there's none of that. These edges are so if I give you X.. E values a. So it's essentially a year or so. You want this point to be in the interior of the spanning tree polytope so. So the that LP is if you scale it by a factor of one minus one minus one when you actually can put it in let us show it in the interior of the Spanish people it'll be OK And furthermore the show actually does lambdas can be computed in the Parliament I'm using a maximum entropy comics program where you can find these numbers and you can sample from this is to be. And so on it so you can actually do it. So this distribution is it's nice to be sure your sample from it and it's and it'll be nice properties and we'll come back to that later. Hard hard code is to be. Yes yes. So I do. Yes that's why. Yes yes the state's also known as hard core distributions. Yes and it has some nice properties and we'll come back to that as well. So that's what we're going to use. So that's one thing. And so looking at the solution which essentially came up with this algorithm which is very similar to the cost of it is our term and very similar to the outcome which was used by it for is a metallic system problem as well. So I give them is the following you come Solihull P. You computer and P. values. OK God isn't the solution. I compute Islam the information which has which we know exists which has this property. I'm not sample a tree from this is to be sure. And now what I say is OK I've got a tree and I look at the vote is if it's about degree and I put a matching order already were deceased and I take the union. It's and that's what I return. But of course if you want to return home. I don't cycle. But as I discussed before it's enough to return something for lady and you can all be shocked but do Somalians shortcutting which is standard. If you've seen Christopher he's a little also so you can get him into a cycle of he will cost but it's enough to return this discipline. So there's a whole hour to it. It's very similar to the Christopher desire to write because nobody wants Christopher the other time does instead of doing something like doing some random picking random tree it picks up a minimal spanning tree of the graph and does a four step is exactly the same but it's in the first three steps are replaced by a minimal spanning tree here we're doing some random sampling to get the nice thing. We're doing over here is some of the nice about sampling is essentially we're following the LP solution. And that's going to be. That's the something with us. You know. Less so you know the case you rock. A feasible solution. Yes solution. Every feasible solution actually yes. Yes. Which is exactly that is in the interior of the Spanish people. OK. So I look at and for this algorithm we made the following conjecture that the approximation and comfort factor for this I was a mystery of mine is absolute for any metric. So for T.S.P. I want to this is a conjecture that made for the S.P. This is a better than three of approximation. Yes So you have to do a scaling to get inside the span into politics because it picks your very best guess. Or one please if you want to then but it's a good skill you usually do do skill by one minus one when I want don't want to put that over there because. So you because you scale by one minus one of what I am like in the Idiot. Smaller one. So I can if you ask you this algorithm is better than three off the south and Dr. I think we still stand by this. So we know for any metric for T.S.P. fatalities a problem. We believe this out of the kind of algorithm actually gets better than Christopher do with them. For some excellent greater than zero which is a real constant. What we could prove is the following the that approximation factor of a similar other term is better than three half for graphical metrics. OK so we couldn't prove exactly what you want to do but something similar. OK And I'm going to tell you what the force of good you know what graph metrics are so I will tell you what the similar to miss is not very different. So basically I just add one more step. What I say if you're LP is merely integral that means if you follow your program. Most of the edges are very close to zero or one. Basically you should be doing something deterministically you the LP has already solved the problem for you if it were illegal you were dumb. It was merely until you do something deterministic don't try to do something around them. And and basically does a little in case it is not merely an evil or you do exactly what what the other of them is doing OK. In this case. Actually it's lot of very hard to show that you actually get a four third fourth or approximation of a close to forty depending on. Almost all is one minus Epsilon and the edges have value close has value more than one my steps along. So almost all the edges are very close to one then essentially you should you would think that you are done and after you're done you can find a tree which will give you approximation factor for thirty plus epsilon some part of it's a lot. Like maybe a few of us. But basically you're done. So the interesting case is the other one when it is not the case. And that's basically what I'm going to discuss with it. Yes. So not exactly no no no let me say it does. Maybe but it's not completely clear no. No no no. In some sense because I could always add some kind of a dummy at this kind of zero cost of the graph and do something to some takes. So basically the whole of all your instance is really in those Epsilon and. With a fractional so I can hide. So like one can do some takes so it's really does not apply. So basically for this algorithm this is the algorithm for which we proved a guarantee for graphical T.S.P. OK so for the rest of talk I'll do the analysis goaded analysis give you some idea of how the analysis goes which I think is it has some interesting we use some interesting ideas. From different parts for different parts and but basically I'm not one. Talk about this part anymore. I'm just going to assume this doesn't happen. Yeah sure. OK. Yes I'll call Christopher he's your yes you're absolutely starting point would be. This is very similar to what Christopher does does Christopher does actually swapping random pleats a minimum spanning tree and the mineral spring to you can show is clearly no more than not because optimal solution contains a spanning tree. It's a cycle. So clearly there is a tree spanning tree of steeple cost over there so it's a very similar idea over there and the second one is is a is a bit tricky but not too difficult but I'll go over it in more detail in next. Light is basically that for any tree in the doesn't matter how costly it was for anything you can show the cost of the matching or odd degree what he sees in respect to what the set about anybody sees are is no more than the half of the LP cost which is no more than our power to get so this is I'll show the slide show this in the next slide in more detail but basically the idea would be to just keep this like this and we're going to some are sure that the randomness of T.. We're going to maybe be small chance. They expected cost of the matching Latin you drop down. We'll get we'll get some savings. Sometimes we'll get lucky. Sometimes we'll pick a tree which actually gets. A small set of what he sees a small cost for the matching to repair it. And no because. This Is Us expectation I just apply linearity of expectation my total cost is cost of the cost of the matching. So I just applied in Europe expectation I'll get. I don't want to do that. I say Yeah I said it is not true but. Yes. Yes. So like I will get it with high probability. Yes yes yes. So yes. It's not really as you're saying it's not deterministic. I would not get any particularly Yes you're correct. I only get it it's anonymous I would I could just repeat right. Yeah I know it's come with you. This is yes. OK So let's let's see why this is true. So I'm claiming what you would do you choose. So unfortunately that's not a set of our bodies would be different in respect to whatever the state of our bodies is you get the matter would be no more than a first year. Let's at least two so we want to show the matching cost more than after one or two. Right so let's look at optimal solution. Like this. Essentially I'm going to reduce analysis I thought so this is this is our optimal solution. And I mark the words which I read which are the odd degree what is overspending to you that's what you found founder three which is something which I'm not showing you. And these are or degree what he sees and I want to find a matching of what these are to be what he sees and then claiming them. The main course matching cost no more than October two. And why is that to. Well because after the solution actually contains two such man things. And one of them is going to cost more than up to two. Well you know. Well you see actually deals are not really matters what you have done is actually found parts. Between these audio disease but when you were in was to toggle the degree you want to make every vertex of even degree. So something which was already even you wanted to keep it even something that was all you want to talk so if you find parts whose endpoints are the word disease for which you want to talk all that's perfect. And this is generally exactly quality Don't problem. So where you are rather than finding direct answers you're finding parts of it so up contains these two teeth the joints more particularly OK so this always shows that matching is no more than art or do I want to claim a stronger thing which is matching is no more the LP or two which is funny thing because L.P.'s. All of the not at the end this is what we'll see should. And I'm going to in the next I'm going to show his analysis and then we're going to see how that actually how what we need to do to get improvement. OK so let's see why is Martin the lesson help you or to what we're going to do is the right Alina program for this matching what each one problem. OK So we want to write a linear program for the student problem which is which was given by Edmonson Johnson the linear program essentially says the following is very intuitive. So I have new variables Y. e one finding a matching So I'm writing a linear program. So one of the set of variables Y. e. But it is but I'm going to put it in my matching or not objective function again minimizing the cost and recall what was our goal. I want I'm giving you a tree and I want to make it all. Ian I want to make every word text which is what degree even. But if you see that if I were everywhere Texas even degree every cut has even number of edges. Also right and that's a constraint on placing that if your T.. These are three. If your cut has odd number of edges. Then you have to pick at least one more in that cut. OK So this is a valid constraint for any subset of what is if you only put the odd number of edges you know you have to pick one more edge in that cut right. And that's what you place. So this is more than the degree that you really want to say OK at every or body what access to pick ONE MORE it. What is placing actually not just for what he sees what tax cuts but all odd cuts and Edmonson down to sort of if you solve your problem. You get into your solution. So this is the Salina program is actually in deal. So which is a very messy and developing on it once batting. Theory so. So for example this would be a cut. Also right in the if this is my tree in this cut I picked three edges I know I have to pick at least one more so I don't know which what exit would hit but it has to wait at least one more certainty. So nice thing now I want to claim if X. star is your LP solution to a sub to LP. I want to play my start over to is feasible for this LP. And that's actually straight forward if you look. For a minute. What does your stuff to help me give you. It gives you that in every cut you have at least two edges fractionally. This LP demands one edge in only some of the cuts the cuts for your tree were actually appeared on number of edges so if you clearly. Why a star or two is a feasible solution. So this cast the there is a feasible solution to this LP which is no more than my sub to the LP cost two or two and I know this is in detail. So the opportunity to solution is not even cheaper. So that the troops will seize argument basically so that the cost of a diesel term is three help themselves. And our goal will be to not see when I have to improve this argument when when can we reduce the cost of formatting. So one has a real thing to do is actually four. Maybe we'll just keep this every I'll keep it to be extra by two but for some ideas I try to reduce it a bit maybe extra work to do a start or two plus a long and still hope that this LP remains feasible. OK Does him and we want to see when can we do that and that will give us some condition and we're just trying to stick out what what. When will that condition actually work. OK so let's see when if I try to reduce it. When can I reduce it. OK. The other thing is this analysis hold for any theory that's so suppose you want to set Y. e two extra over to perception on the two two ways I can do that first thing is for base edge the cuts are not even let's say the cuts are not even present for which which will complain. So they some cats will start complaining some cat will say OK this this modern new will be solution is no longer feasible. I will reduce too much. So maybe if they don't. Not if they're not even present then I'm even happy with the other is I'm only reducing by a factor of two plus Absalom if some of these cards as we had a value more than two plus Absalom then I'll be OK as well because why did two do well because I knew in every cut I was too if I never thought I would I would be too close. Absalom this would still work out if we reduced by a factor of two closer to one. So the cards are really don't matter out of the cuts which contain my. And whose values between two and two plus along with those are the only cuts that really worry about. And I want I want those cussed not to be present in. So that's a bit of a mouthful but basically what I want if men cut those are so remember the men cutting aren't a solution is value too so. And anything between bitch is between two want to gossip salon and I'm calling them as near mint cuts. I want men cuts a near mint cut to be even mighty should be even number of edges in those trees in those cuts if that happens then I can obtain improvement. Like this is something like put a lid to our problem but there's something I just want to remind everybody again like. People ever matting is like until it doesn't matter. We could just look at it as a. Every day we were to say I want to hit but actually it's not oddly what it is you want to hit you want to hit the set about cuts really that's really what you want to hit and that's basically what Edmund algorithm does. So that's where his blossom algorithm. Yes and this like it means Johnson generalizes the framework of the joints. So to let make it may be possible. I'm not sure whether it'll make it. We'll understand more American make it more complicated but let's try to see what kind of edges will be good or not good. So suppose this is the solution. So the LP values are written over Hell most as you can see most of them are one and a half. And this is a spanning tree that I have and I want to check whether it is good or not. So let's check whether this edge is good or not. OK So what do I want to check I want to check all the middle. Cuts mean cuts where the government is given by these weights in this graph and I want to check whether my tree actually picks even number of edges in all these simultaneously. So let's use a minute cards for now so example in this graph I want to say this is not good because this cut the singleton cut is a is a min cut. Actually every degree cut is a min cut every degree fraction degrees too and you are picking only one it so clearly this is not a good edge right for the street. So you might think. OK At least I want. Even degree on both sides for is to be good simultaneously. But again as I said it's just not enough for example this edge for this is the end points clearly have even degrees in my tree but they're still not a good age because if you look at this cut now a new graphic can still say see it's a it's been cut in it's value is all people used to. And you've only paid one estimate. As you can look at this graph. You won't find. It's very hard to find actually any good ideas in this plea. So it's your question. Yes yes yes. No the saving in here is this example is merely until we find a deterministic. So called Other them is still run. Yes but the very far our knowledge is OUR them alone but our analysis does not run in this sort of masses does not work for this example because this example is merely until most edges are one. So we actually pick a deterministic tree and do it and do a photo of the analysis with this example so that. You are so yes so that's exactly what we show. So we show you the real P. is merely until all costs a fraction of edges are good in their random tree in expectation. Yes exactly. So we should one of these two things happen. They sum instructor to know about the linear program. Solution. And we show it in two steps and they are basically two very different like different steps. The first every show. If either you or LP is nearly integral or you can get a pass and fraction of edges which are only in constant constant number of Neumann cuts. So I can get ASA fraction of the ideas. Each of them is no more than let's say ten. And cuts on tenure mean cuts. OK So one of these things always happens. And then we show will then we find some subset of these are just constant fraction of these ideas and show that they actually are good in a random. And human cuts. We have to look at you. So this is good for business. Not when this is so so this part is like there's no two you are not this is a this is just a graph terrific statement. Complete after six images not going to do without them at all. Lots of. Oratory And they saying you know you're LP solution is merely until or a cause and fraction of the ages are in constant amount of human cuts. OK And this building after Rick there's no randomization overhead. Only issues from when from head to head. And we see the structure of human cuts play important role. See her more than not doing that great on time. So let me just briefly tell you what this is so so one claim that we prove is that if I give you or took a regular to get connected graph and I told you that almost all the edges are in a large number of me and many cards then G. is very close to a cycle. OK so. So for example if if your graph was like This is a cycle and this directly caper ledges between each of them right. And then she does well proving if you have this thing. If you. Most of it is a large number of human cast your graph will essentially look like a cycle. More than a constant. OK. Depends also very close to a cycle what you mean very close a cycle you would like a bit of a large you might have other edges which are going around but those edges number of those issues can be bounded depending on how many. Cuts you have. So it's in it's easier to think on the converse. So if you look at a cycle in a cycle every year it is an end. Minus one near mint and minus one min cuts this as in any other it. In sums is what we are proving is that your converse of the statement. So you are proving that every edge is in a. Not just in minus one in a large concert number of most of the edges are is in more than some large concert number of near mint cuts then glass structure actually looks like a cycle. OK and forty S B What that implies is your solution nearly until. Like if you are and that's like I want I'm going to detail by that exactly place the story hard. It's basically very simple the TO DO care really corresponds to Caylee cause points to one. So this was key and Kiki would be one who has so that's really integral it. So this. So this uses some properties are sort of near mint cuts and many cuts. I don't have time to go into this but. They gave you extend the results of banks are really who gave a very nice representation of women cuts of a graph. And we extend that and prove it. So and I like the rest of the few minutes I want to spend on talking about this part now. So this part is now. Kind of independent. As well where we want to say OK we have a we have a course of action if this were the case we're done. We have a deterministic out of my way in this case that a constant fraction of the ideas are and of course a number of. Near Mint cuts. Can we have to argue that in a random tree with most of these it would be good to get so what does that really mean. OK maybe I should know. So we're not using capital behind if you don't use something that is our lead in and the saving that we're accounting is using the fact that as a graph metric any edge cost is at least one that all the edges of a graph cost at least one and nor are there no very costly edges. Because the shortest part is no more than and so all the edges are the cost of nicely bonded and so on. OK so. So the situation simple latest let's just look at for a single it. Suppose I told you this of a. The edge is in a bunch of middle cuts came in cuts. We want to see. I'm in cuts on him and cuts for the masses really doesn't matter for now and can think of here's a constant let's say ten and we want to find this problem that your T.V. to sample from this mass amount will be distribution of this uniform distribution. I want. The T. to contain even number of pages each of these cuts simultaneously and I want to load on this probably I want to show this is at least a constant if I could show that then I'll be like I'll be happy. That's when I'm done. So this is really the main problem that I'm interested in. And why would why should you when expect nice things. So one thing is so let's let's look at the indicator random variables for a particular is that we say that those are axes and it's a very old theorem of Fed and we heil shows that these are unavailable something to be associated so in football if you pick actually say that a one hundred F. is going to be chosen. It's actually going to decrease the problem of every other it right and also commit to a host also more generally and also implies concentration. We can apply sure no bounds and so on water will basically some very nice concentration properties hold for London from distributions and this exactly what was used for is a matter of traveling salesman problem. You can apply for no bounce nicely. So far as it's a big moral tricky because we want some it to be even we can't say it's between the up to something smaller than some number because two is good for us. Three B.'s but again but four is good for us. So either I want to say it's always two. I can't apply the range or something like sort of one of two very precise. So if there were for example I could still work it out you can still apply shown a bounce in and we can check OK. I want to find out. Probably not exactly two because she says she is at least a constant and why is that because your expectation is exactly what is the expectation. Your three in expectation is following the LP solution. That's exactly why. Distribution one of the reasons we chose is the submission. So an expected number of edges that you put into Scott is very close to L.T. value and we know this cut is a mere man cut so that means there are people is very close to. So in expectation you close you expect to see two inches and you know you are concentrated around it so they'll be a constant problem that you will hit the peak you will actually get to with the way you can actually work out the numbers and you'll get at least a one third. So that's a start at least one we can get it. Not all of these cuts are independent. They only care of them case a constant so I could just multiply them. But they're not independent of course it's ease common to all of these cuts but they could be other ideas which are common and it's not even clear that this certainly were not human to exist are not independent negatively associated. So the question is what do we do from here and to do this we actually have to go to more general distributions. So we really want to have one problem. Which I strongly really measures. I would NOT going to do too much detail about these. Defined by looking at the data functions and giving some condition on possibilities. But the basic idea is these are a big gem of more than a class of of distributions probably the switches with generalized in particular lambda uniform spanning trees. But a nice property about distributions are there close under a lot of operations. So what example close under protection truncation or even conditioning if you do some some nice kind of conditioning. You will again get strongly measure and these are introduced in the recent paper by both your brand in the link it. So my thing is if you even if you do a lot of these operations nice operations. You can get. Strongly measures and all strongly valid measures have a negative association and again you can apply sure no bounds for all of these measures. So things work very nicely and what we really want to use are these end up using up the strong rally measures. So the way we do it is pretty simple. So we know this is true by just straight forward sure no bounds. What we want. What we do is condition of this being happening. OK So we look at the measure. New Prime which is new condition on that we actually get two edges in that particular card because because the new was strongly rally because it was planning to measure. So reply would be strongly Dolly is no longer a crazy measure you're saying on a particular cut you picking two edges look at that measure. But still strongly Ali what about that measure this. And now. You're so. So now basically if you look at two cuts now I want to look at probably that it is two in the first part and it is two in the second cut by a simple base rule is just that is two in the first part times in the conditional measure it's two in the second quite well and I haven't done anything I just played baseball great the first time but I know it's at least a one third second now but also want to see it at least I'm told. Why because I start so strongly I can apply the same thing. One has to be a bit careful about overhead because expectations hundred new play might have changed. Remember why would we apply. To get this concentration what happened because we said our peak is essentially to our expectation is to imagine you. That's also true for C two but are measured as genes from you to me prime your condition on certain events is no longer true the expectation would be too. So one has to do a lot of bookkeeping to make sure the expectations don't change too much and we can still do this or a constable cuts and basically that's where a lot of bookkeeping is done but it can be done so. Pardon. You have to also do truncation Yes yes. And we also have to apply like we can't do it for all such areas. It's not that it isn't cost an army near mint cuts we can actually prove this. So we actually have to characterize look at all such as these and character is them and only prove it for certain subclass and then show that the supplies are still large. So we can't prove it and I don't see went through so we don't have a counterexample So for example we can't even prove in this land informational if I give you an edge. There's a chance of probably both the imports will be will be so even that we cannot do actually. And I don't think so though even that is true so. So it's not. In general it's just like OK but basic idea when it works it works like this. Mostly yes in a few except for a few cases like there are over again. One or two cases where we actually end up going to four. Because of yeah but most cases to us. So these are kind of things I wanted to put under the rug and I'm not want to go but yes this is how it works. So it is simple it's not hard basically But sometimes have to do bit more bookkeeping and things work around the edges but mostly it was like this. For is also your number. Yes. That's. OK. But I think I should get over the proof somebody is basically decided we should destruct a term and there to really parts of it. Want to spill it after tickle the other is kind of uses just the properties of these lumbering reform measures. To conclude we actually give improve the lot of a graphical D.S.P. handle which is still bothering me like there is this nice algorithm. Right. We give and I think it's a very natural law a lot of as well and we've conducted is going to work for all metrics that we like right now we can prove that this is. The case. Actually I don't even know what a lot won an epsilon I don't know off of for example where the Sultan was worse than foretold. But I don't think so we can prove anything close to forethought because just I don't think so. Playing around with these probably dimensions and so on. We can get such strong bones at all. OK. The other cases subsequent to our work they were work my mom can sense them which is give a very nice but a very different algorithm which is fairly common authorial and they give a one point four six approximation for the government E.S.P. case exactly the problem that we started the analysis will be little improved by a move or two in one point four four. So the other next one problem would be to actually just nail down there's a graphical T.S.P. is the right answer for third just for graphical B.S.. So that would be one problem. The other is how hardness I mentioned earlier is one point zero one. And I must say this is not very satisfactory in some. We should really be getting a harness or possibly even for thought there isn't a reality gap of all told. This paper is still I don't want to say that some thought should be the guy who is responsible for not doing it but there's a nice paper I fold on this paper but I actually have no ideas. I don't think so. No well not calculated bone earlier at all but yes it's basically A.P. It's hard. That's what it is kind of more. Like maybe there's a sponsor and or here. It would be interesting because there are entirely gaps and there's a somewhat decent amount of theory that has been developed to actually take integral gaps to harness. It's not really over that such things can be done about head on. Or is there a strong reason why it can't be done. So the sting the other I want to see is is basically using these Macs and probably decision on hardware distributions they have been a bunch of successes especially applying these hard core distributions and using point here to structure together. For example for a T.S.P. like basically the way T.S.P. give this. Dog It is not going to level again what I want to think are there like the politest of flaws with maximum properties we really give give some partial progress on P.S.P. by applying this combining the politest of the joystick Maxima to Patrice. In some sense I want to interpret the result of card for color multiclass it is also beautiful problem which kind of combines elements matching part of his mathematician to be matching. So this if one can do produces approximation approximation results and is kind of not quite as well there's open conjecture for what I won't go into detail and the problem is I think this should be should be more and more common we should like especially the of seen a lot of algorithm is a purely polyhedral but I think especially combining with these random structures. Even Maxima will be stuck to give me one particular candidate can we get improved I will transform a form of Luke and I guess with that. Thank you thank you. Yes. So yes so yes I yeah I we tried a bunch of different approaches but we don't have a I would say we don't have a conviction also how to what would be the corresponding. Claim or what have you all so you want to do you want to use a cost of a metric right. So in some sense it cannot happen that. There are a lot of costly edges. You know. You're so you want to see the edges which have nice and they kind of hit all kind of possibilities. So that it's costly as it would be had. They basically so I don't know maybe they hit all carts. I really don't know exactly all cycles or something like that. I don't know exactly what the computer would be. But yeah. But it could be different approaches this exactly. The algorithm is there but did of this is the way if I did analysis maybe that was a misleading but that's another way to do the analysis that way to reduce one particular lead but maybe you could play around you can increase for the problem increase or decrease and so on. You could do that as well but you know not necessarily. But be comparable for every And we still again a subset of. Yes. Well except our one could think of say Iran or my surroundings always mustn't repeat on the right. Like if one would think about I don't want to say that but make one could do that or for that matter. So for example let's just do said cover letter to max coverage for the for that matter right for mastery to have a constraint and to pick a set. So I think if you say that I'm going to do pick the distribution side of my marginal side. I can readily no problem for it. My marginal. And I have discussed and I'm not subject to discussing. I want to be the maximum entropy distribution. It will be like I did one minus one hundred years when so. But I don't it will be very different again for some kind of a grounding I think will be the kind of the same distribution you scale everything in and so much less so in something that's what the fall of paper does they try to do a comment a little thing in something defined try to find a tree or don't find a plea but a bit more general structure which tries to take into account the cost of the edges would you pick and maybe the cost of the little edges that you want because well. And so they do try to do in some sense combine both of those things together in the first step itself in beautifully that's how I try to think of them but it's not. Yes yes. Rule your mind but I'm not sure I don't know of one but I didn't try too hard. So far I'm going to time we tried to calculate it it's small on the small very small. Thank you. You're certainly very well so. So the LP but you say LP value will be like No no no no no no. You could still have a so a lot of four cards so Lakota Indian P. solution you could slam a lot of men because all of the scenes are clearly to write as a constraint to place over constant fraction of the N.T. is part of it. Most of the YES YES YES YES that is true and this is probably got a little statement you're making. Yes yes yes. So only if all of the in all of those cut you pre-prepared even number of pages then I can actually anomalies by two plus two. Yes. Basically yes. No you're not just your after two. Yes I could be stated also as a to get a bill or to get going to telegraph has some properties I consider purely good after to go. Yes. OK Thank you.