[MUSIC PLAYING] SUBJECT 1: The summer stresses me out because everybody gets so excited about the summer, and I just don't get it. people are like, how can you be inside all day? Whereas, I want to say, everything I want to do is inside. CHARLIE BENNET: You are listening to WREK Atlanta, and this is Lost in the Stacks, the Research Library Rock'n'Roll Radio Show. I'm Charlie Bennett in the virtual studio with the whole crew, Fred Rascoe, Wendy Hagenmaier, and Marlee Givens. Each week on Lost in the Stacks, we pick a theme and then use it to create a mix of music and library talk. Whichever you're here for, we hope you dig it. WENDY HAGENMAIER: Our show today is called "The Summer Show." Sure, summer officially starts in about two weeks, but it's the summer semester at Georgia Tech. FRED RASCOE: Which means hot weather, near-deserted campus, and a significant lack of teaching requests for the archivists and librarians. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yes. WENDY HAGENMAIER: So let's talk summer-- specifically, summer reading. We all work in a library, so we must get to read all day, right? MARLEE GIVENS: Oh, I love it when Wendy uses irony. CHARLIE BENNETT: It's true. We don't get to read for a living, despite all of my attempts to get my job description changed. But we can still talk about what we're reading over the summer and what qualities we think make a book quote unquote, "summer reading." FRED RASCOE: And our songs today are about summer, either in their lyrics, or because they make someone on the show team think of summer. CHARLIE BENNETT: It's always summer on an AC/DC album. FRED RASCOE: So I guess I know what's going to be on your summer playlist, Charlie. Let's start the show with a meta-summer song from Queens of the Stone Age. I got a feeling that's another one from your playlist. This is "Feel Good Hit of the Summer" right here on Lost in the Stacks. [MUSIC - QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE, "FEEL GOOD HIT OF THE SUMMER"] FRED RASCOE: All right, that was "Feel Good Hit of the Summer" by Queens of the Stone Age. Maybe not exactly about summer. CHARLIE BENNETT: Oh, worked for me. So this is Lost in the Stacks, and our show today is called "The Summer Show" all about our summer reading. Let's start with you, Wendy. What are you reading right now and do you know what you'll be reading over the summer? WENDY HAGENMAIER: OK, so the book I am currently reading is called The First Free Women. This was a book my sister gave me for my birthday recently. So it's not necessarily that this is a summer book, but it is my summer book right now because she gave it to me recently. She picked it up at the feminist bookstore in Madison, Wisconsin. And it came with a little postcard. And it says, happy birthday, with my nickname, which I will not reveal. CHARLIE BENNETT: Oh, what? WENDY HAGENMAIER: And it says I can't. It says, from some seriously BAMF nuns, which is-- yes, you know what that means. FRED RASCOE: For those of us maybe out of the loop, what was that again? WENDY HAGENMAIER: Some seriously BAMF nuns. So, you know, Bad-Ass M-F nuns. FRED RASCOE: Oh, yeah, got you. WENDY HAGENMAIER: Whatever we're allowed to say. [LAUGHTER] So, OK, this is a book of-- FRED RASCOE: So embarrassed. WENDY HAGENMAIER: Yeah. [LAUGHS] It's a book of poems that were written recently, but they're based on this very ancient text from this group of the first women to follow the Buddha-- so, like, 2,600 years ago, these women who just left their families and went to follow the Buddhist path. And it was recommended to my sister by a friend of a friend or whatever. But, yeah, I've been doing a lot of reading and practicing of mindfulness, meditation. So she thought this book would be up my alley. But it is fascinating, I think, just to imagine this group of women and what it was like to just up and leave your family way back in the day and become a nun. So I don't know if we have time. I can read a really quick one if you want-- CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, go for it. WENDY HAGENMAIER: --to get a taste. CHARLIE BENNETT: How could any of us say no? WENDY HAGENMAIER: OK, so they're all named-- I guess this is the name of the nun, perhaps, and then a title. So this is "Dantika, the Elephant." "While walking along the river after a long day meditating on Vulture Peak, I watched an elephant splashing its way out of the water and up the bank. 'Hello, my friend,' a man waiting there said, scratching the elephant behind its ear. 'Did you have a good bath?' The elephant stretched out its leg, the man climbed up, and the two rode off like that together. Seeing what had once been so wild now a friend and companion to this good man, I took a seat under the nearest tree and reached out a gentle hand to my own mind. 'Truly,' I thought, 'this is why I came to the woods.'" So you get a little taste there. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah. WENDY HAGENMAIER: Yes, so each poem is a different woman's story about how she found her way to this spiritual life. CHARLIE BENNETT: So can you make a case for it being summer reading despite the seriousness of the history of the book and the fact that it's poetry to it being something that's outside of your work interests, something that's very personal? Or do you even think of this as summer reading? Are you saying "summer reading" just because I've kind of backed you into this corner that it's a summer reading show? WENDY HAGENMAIER: Yeah, well, I think that when I think of summer reading, I think of an escape but also really looking for freedom, like freedom from the usual or freedom from whatever you're assigned to read, which is a lot of other things I'm reading right now. So I think-- and all of these poems are about a pretty radical form of freedom that these women set out. And some of them are funny. There's different tones. So I think it's that theme of freedom that, for me, resonates with summer reading, exploring in an open way that you might not usually be able to or allow yourself to. So I think it fits. It's highly recommended. CHARLIE BENNETT: And are you like me, Wendy, that your leisure reading or your personal reading is a list a mile long so that you know the next thing you're going to read, or? WENDY HAGENMAIER: I mean, honestly, no. I wish I was more like you, Charlie. I do know because I'm in a graduate program and have a bunch of syllabi I'm following. I do know that I'm going to be spending a lot of quality time with-- let me get this right-- US Private Sector Privacy, Third Edition textbook. CHARLIE BENNETT: I'm just going to bleep that whole title out. [LAUGHS] WENDY HAGENMAIER: It's actually really fascinating and very different from this poetry book. So it's good to mix it up. But that's on deck. How about you, Fred? What are you reading right now. And do you know what you'll be reading this summer? FRED RASCOE: Well, first of all, I want to try to read that postcard that you kind of briefly held up because I want to know what your nickname is. Is it BAMF? Does it have anything to do with BAMF? WENDY HAGENMAIER: I wish. CHARLIE BENNETT: And see, this is dangerous because I can tell you both are in your offices that are right next to each other. So don't leave your door open, Wendy. FRED RASCOE: Right. [LAUGHS] CHARLIE BENNETT: I'm not going to break into your office. [LAUGHS] FRED RASCOE: It's interesting that the book that you're reading was about ancient text because I just finished a book which was-- in my opinion, it was one of the most interesting books that I've read in a while. It's called The Writing of the Gods. It's by Edward Dolnick, and it's about the finding of what is known as the Rosetta Stone in Egypt and the subsequent decoding of the hieroglyphics that were on that stone over a period of, like, 30 years after finding the stone. And how hieroglyphics, which had have been known for thousands of years but no one had known what they had meant since ancient times-- they'd been all but forgotten. And I found it-- it's not a poetic book. It's really just a historical look at what the Rosetta Stone was and what it means. But it was just fascinating to know that this slab of rock, which was from-- originally, it was found in a trash pile or had probably been in a trash pile for hundreds of years. And before that, it was at the front of a temple for a thousand years before that. And basically, what it says is, they-- Ptolemy's the emperor here and will continue to rule with an iron fist. [LAUGHTER] (LAUGHING) All of you will be subjugated to this. But for so long, scholars have looked at hieroglyphics and thought, look at all these detailed drawings and symbols and pictures. It must be an expression of such high-minded ideals. It must be an encapsulation of ancient knowledge. And, really, what it is it's just sounds and the occasional pictograph. It's like, this picture means this sound, and this picture means this, and this means masculine, and this means feminine. And it took 30 years of work by some dedicated scholars to discover this. If you're not familiar with the Rosetta Stone, has hieroglyphics, and another ancient Egyptian text which is unknown at the time, and Greek writing. So the Greek writing could be compared to the hieroglyphics and eventually translated because Greek was known, hieroglyphics unknown. It was interesting because it's not-- it was kind of like a puzzle. The three different texts, those similar-- the author describes it as like if two different people describe the plot of the same movie. It's not an exactly 1-to-1 exact translation. So there was an additional mysterious element to it. So I just finished reading that, and right now, I'm reading a biography of Mike Nichols, so changed gears a little bit. CHARLIE BENNETT: Fred, I hardly know how to approach this. Again, this is summer reading because you don't need to read it for work. Is that right? These don't sound like laze-about beach reading books. FRED RASCOE: I always pick books at the library that I think are interesting. And it never occurs to me like, oh, this would be a good wintertime, cozy up next to the heater, or summertime, sit out on the porch. During the summertime, I love sitting out on the porch and reading, but it doesn't matter what I read. Just anything that sounds interesting to me that's on the New bookshelf at the library, that's good for right now, whenever right now is. MARLEE GIVENS: We'll be back with more about our summer reading after a music set. CHARLIE BENNETT: File this set under PZ7.G987. [MUSIC - CHUBBY CHECKER, "LET'S TWIST AGAIN"] CHUBBY CHECKER: Come on, everybody. Clap your hands. Oh, you're looking good. [MUSIC - AC/DC, "THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ROCKIN'"] WENDY HAGENMAIER: You just heard "There's Gonna Be Some Rockin'" by AC/DC, and before that, 'Let's Twist Again Like We Did Last Summer" by Chubby Checker. Those were songs about music in the summer and what it makes you do. [ROCK MUSIC] MARLEE GIVENS: This is Lost in the Stacks, and our show today is called "The Summer Show," all about our summer reading. We heard from Fred and Wendy last segment, so let's ask Charlie. What are you reading right now? And do you know what you'll be reading over the summer? CHARLIE BENNETT: To do this, let me pull up my unnamed reading tracking app that, of course, we've never spoken about on this show before. OK, I just finished the book Wildland-- The Making of America's Fury by Evan Osnos. And this is another book, like the ones we talked about, that doesn't seem to be summer reading. It's all about how we got into this horrible, polarized mess that we're in culturally, politically, perhaps even economically-- a lot of talk about West Virginia and how West Virginia is being stripped literally by commercial interests. So that was fun. And before that, I did read Bad Actors, which seems a little more like a summer book because it's about spies who have failed so badly that they have been relegated to a suburban post in a crappy building overseen by a disgraced Berlin operative. It is part of the series that is the basis for the Apple TV show Slow Horses. Really fun, cliché-popping spy novel. And if I look at my pile of stuff I am going to read, I've got mostly decluttering books, which is where my head is at right now, Decluttering at the Speed of Life, Making Space, Clutter Free, and, oh no, I've lost the other one in the clutter on my desk. So we'll see if I actually can read any of these. And yes, to everyone who's thinking it. I've already read the Marie Kondo-- whatever that joy thing is. FRED RASCOE: Is that a summer thing with you, Charlie, that you declutter? Is that an annual thing? During the summer, it's time to throw stuff out? CHARLIE BENNETT: Sure, let's say that's what I do each summer. No, this is what has happened-- now that we've been living in the house almost 10 years, we're going to have to handle this. I mean, 10 years with three kids, you accumulate a lot of clutter, and it is only by sheer force of will that I'm not using words I have to bleep out to describe everything I just said. [LAUGHTER] OK, so that's one I just read. That's what I'm going to be reading. I also have A Field Guide to White Supremacy, but I'm going to read the decluttering first. So let's end with you, Marlee. MARLEE GIVENS: OK. CHARLIE BENNETT: What are you reading right now? MARLEE GIVENS: OK. CHARLIE BENNETT: And do you know what you'll be reading this summer? MARLEE GIVENS: I just finished a book, and the book is called The Midnight Library, which is a novel, and I do tend to read novels in the summertime, with a few exceptions. I am looking at things that I have read in summers past, and a lot of them are-- they're stories about a single person who's going through some sort of life transition of some kind and how they get through it. The Midnight Library in particular is the story of what happens to someone who has attempted suicide and is having kind of a vision, where they're transported to a library, and they get to live all of the potential lives that they might have lived had they made different choices in their own life. So it's kind of like-- it's kind of like the film Sliding Doors, except it's a lot more involved. And it was really interesting to be taken on this journey. But the Sherpa on the journey is this person's school librarian. I really enjoyed that. In the past, I've read a book that I always recommend to people, especially for the summer, called Less by Andrew Sean Greer. It's a much more humorous book about someone who's sort of at a crossroads in their life. And they decide to say yes to all of the speaking opportunities-- CHARLIE BENNETT: Oh no. MARLEE GIVENS: --that they've been offered in the past year, and so he goes on a worldwide voyage. And I won't spoil the end, but it's absolutely delightful. I also, one summer, read the book Canada by Mike Myers, which is also an absolute delight. I would definitely recommend that to anyone. And I know that there's a new David Sedaris book coming out this summer or has just come out, so will be hopefully available at the library sometime this summer if I get on the waiting list right now. So, yeah, I really do like to read books about people. The book that I just checked out that I had to go back and-- it was on my list for a while, and I just decided to get it this time. Again, it's someone who's in midlife. It's a book called Rules for Visiting by Jessica Francis Kane. And, yeah, sort of classic Marlee, I guess. [LAUGHS] CHARLIE BENNETT: Are you choosing these books on purpose now, saying, I need a book that's about a person in transition? Or did you just discover that-- MARLEE GIVENS: No. CHARLIE BENNETT: --oh, this seems to be what I get when I'm moving into my summer novel reading. MARLEE GIVENS: It's really more that. It's really more that. I mean, it hasn't always been the case. I can think of summer several years ago, where I read all of the books in The Mysterious Benedict Society series kind of right in a row. Those are great because they're very exciting. It's such an inventive, magical world that's somewhat grounded in reality, but also lots of things happen that seem kind of far fetched. But I think what I remember about reading all of those is that it was very hard to put them down. And summertime, a lot of times, I want something that I can read a little bit and then put it down and go back to it a little bit later. So I tend not to read the thrillers or the very plot-driven books-- CHARLIE BENNETT: That's against the-- MARLEE GIVENS: --during the summer. CHARLIE BENNETT: --publisher's intended trend. MARLEE GIVENS: [LAUGHS] Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I guess if you're the type of person who actually enjoys sitting for hours on a beach reading a book cover to cover. I just don't really have that kind of patience, and I don't like being in the sun that much. CHARLIE BENNETT: [LAUGHS] MARLEE GIVENS: So. FRED RASCOE: That brings up an interesting question. Marlee, have you, or Charlie or Wendy, have you ever read a book on the beach? I don't think I ever have. CHARLIE BENNETT: Oh, Fred, you gotta. WENDY HAGENMAIER: Like, the whole thing or just part of it? FRED RASCOE: Just, like, sit on the beach, sitting on the beach, and reading a book. WENDY HAGENMAIER: Oh, yeah. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah. Yeah, me and Wendy are on the same page here. FRED RASCOE: [INAUDIBLE] CHARLIE BENNETT: In fact, one time, when I was taken on a Florida vacation, in which I could not do anything during the day except wait for everyone to come back-- long story, tell you later-- I read a book a day for four days straight on the beach, and it was bliss. I was actually sort of disappointed when people came back, and we started having fun. FRED RASCOE: Wow. CHARLIE BENNETT: I guess, Marlee, I'm more on your end of the spectrum. MARLEE GIVENS: [LAUGHS] CHARLIE BENNETT: That's just when I'm on the beach, I'm playing in the water or whatever. MARLEE GIVENS: Yeah, yeah, me too. Me too. CHARLIE BENNETT: We'll be back with more about our summer reading on the left side of the hour. [MUSIC - THE DEVIL MAKES THREE, "HAND BACK DOWN"] THE DEVIL MAKES THREE: 1, 2, 3. DAVIA NELSON: This is Davia Nelson of The Kitchen Sisters, and you're listening to Lost in the Stacks, the research library rock and roll radio show on WREK Atlanta. THE DEVIL MAKES THREE: (SINGING) Headlights burn like torches is on the way to a war. Tell me what it was that we were fighting for. CHARLIE BENNETT: Our show today is called "The Summer Show." And for the mid-show break, I'd like to read to you from a 2011 Entertainment Weekly column by the staggeringly popular novelist, Stephen King. [JAZZ MUSIC] "Back in the days when I was an Entertainment Weekly regular, I started a column titled '25 Things That Piss Me Off.' I never finished because I'm a fairly easygoing guy, and I could only think of about a dozen. But on that abbreviated list right between number 7, 'When the Junior Mints fall off my toothpick,' and number 9, 'People who think movies with subtitles are always works of genius,' was this at number 8-- 'Snobby summer reading lists.' I'm talking about the guy who says he's going to spend July rereading War and Peace or the woman who insists that she's finally going to dig into the complete works of George Eliot. Really? Eliot or James Joyce while swinging in the backyard hammock? Maybe somebody thinks that that's the way to spend those lazy, hazy, crazy days of summer, but not me. So when Entertainment Weekly gave me a chance to make a list of books for real people to read on real summer vacations, I jumped at the chance. None of these novels will insult your intelligence, but all will take you away to new and interesting places full of excitement danger and maybe a few laughs. For me, that-- and not A Complete History of Canada in Very Tiny Print-- is what summer reading is all about." OK, so that was from Stephen King in May 2011. And while we unpack the irony of being angry at snobby reading lists while also making a list of books that, quote, "real people," unquote, can read, let's file this set under PZ7.Z77925. [MUSIC - THE LOVIN' SPOONFUL, "SUMMER IN THE CITY"] THE LOVIN' SPOONFUL: (SINGING) Hot town, summer in the city, back of my neck-- [MUSIC - THE KINKS, "SUNNY AFTERNOON"] THE KINKS: (SINGING) Sun. FRED RASCOE: You just heard "Sunny Afternoon" by The Kinks, before that, "Cruel Summer" by the wonderfully named Bananarama, and before that, "Summer in the City" by The Lovin' Spoonful. Those are songs about trouble in the summer. [ROCK MUSIC] This is Lost in the Stacks. Our show today is called "The Summer Show." We've talked about our reading right now and maybe for the summer. And now, the time has come to take on the very concept of summer reading. I have some questions here. What does summer reading mean? Is it unpretentious, populist literature, that Stephen King quote that we just heard? What do we think about that? What do we think about that summer reading list introduction? Also, Wendy, what's your nickname? [LAUGHTER] CHARLIE BENNETT: Well, I can see that there's new running gag on the show. I'm looking forward to that one. We'll have to start doing guesses in the precredit sequence. [LAUGHTER] But, yeah, so it's important-- part of why it shows that Stephen King quote is because not only is it fun to read Stephen King's writing because he writes like one talks. It also made me feel a little bit like, dude, really? Is that how you're going to talk about people reading books, snobby reading lists because intelligence is somehow challenged? But also, I may be just [INAUDIBLE]-- my back might be up for no good reason. So I wonder, what you all think of summer reading? FRED RASCOE: Also he used that example in that excerpt, something like The History of Canada, what was it? A Complete History of Canada? CHARLIE BENNETT: In Very Tiny Print. FRED RASCOE: I mean, OK, maybe that's not summer reading for Stephen King. Is it Stephen King's January reading? I don't think there's any time of year where Stephen King is going to pick up that book. CHARLIE BENNETT: I've also never talked to someone who said, I'm going to crack the complete works of George Eliot this summer. Occasionally, a professor will say, I'm going to read some books over the summer for my job, but I don't know who Stephen King is hanging out-- who is Stephen King hanging out with that's going to say that to him, knowing how he feels about literature? FRED RASCOE: Do you all have criteria for summer reading? Because I said-- and you know when I was talking about what I was reading, if it looks like something I want to read, it's something that I would want to at any time of year. MARLEE GIVENS: And this is all actually making me think of an internet meme that I saw last summer, and I saw it again this summer. It starts off by saying, How to have a summer body-- Number 1, is it summer? Number 2, do you have a body? Congratulations, you have a summer body. I think the summer reading, once you get past school, it's reading that you could do any time. But like I said, I don't tend to-- I actually really never sit around for hours reading. I just get a little restless. I need to put it down. I need to go do something else. You know, I've learned over the years that my eyes get very tired reading. So that's how it happens for me. And I think maybe since I've become more of a fan of audiobooks, and I will listen to those in little segments, that's probably how I read most things in print as well, just kind of gotten used to the snippets. But I get the idea that summertime is a time for doing things that you don't normally do during the rest of the year-- going on vacation to different places, going to the beach, sitting around, not decluttering your house, but-- CHARLIE BENNETT: (LAUGHING) Yeah. MARLEE GIVENS: But, you know, like sitting around and being lazy. And I think for some people, the chance to really luxuriate in a book that's not something they would normally read-- I think it's something you can do any time of year, but summertime seems like a great time for that. CHARLIE BENNETT: As I was reading a few things that people have said about summer reading, did a quick Google search before the show, I found two camps. There are people who assume that summer reading is meant to be something that's not challenging, that you can be lazy while you read it, just like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to read this whole thing. And some people think that summer reading is stuff that it doesn't matter if you get interrupted because summer has a lot more, say, unstructured time going on, or you're not really trying to accomplish things as much as you are in the cold days of winter when you're working, both of which ring both true and false to me. I think I've always thought of summer reading as a label that was being put on books that I was willing to go with. Like, oh, yeah, this is stuff that doesn't challenge the form, is meant to be entertaining content in a classical structure. But it turns out, much like pineapple on pizza, many people have very strong feelings about summer reading. Wendy? WENDY HAGENMAIER: I guess, yeah, that's interesting. I'm curious to know when the term was first used. Maybe this is a Google Ngram thing. But to me, it feels a lot like publisher marketing. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah. WENDY HAGENMAIER: And that people have interpreted and connected it to different reasons. But I don't know, but maybe there is a lot more to the history. And I think about the Stephen King thing, some people-- it seems like he's against people being-- sort of pushing themselves to do something that they don't innately want to do, maybe, like perhaps with War and Peace. Maybe they don't really want to, but they feel like they should, and they need to present their summer body that way. [LAUGHTER] But so maybe there's something about authenticity or something that's kind of interesting in that, but yeah. MARLEE GIVENS: Yeah, is he railing against people who are reading for other people rather than themselves? CHARLIE BENNETT: Possibly. I will say there's one more facet to summer reading-- summer reading programs at libraries and community centers, which are meant to make sure that kids don't fall away from at least some life of the mind over summer vacation. I don't know which came first, the publisher label-- you know, here's the new Dan Brown for your summer reading. Or if summer reading was reading during the summer break that we want to make sure you do, and we know you're not going to do assignments or read your math textbook, but here. Here are all of The Baby-Sitter Club books. How do you know something is summer reading, even if you don't quite agree with the definition? MARLEE GIVENS: It's on somebody's summer reading list. CHARLIE BENNETT: Nailed it. WENDY HAGENMAIER: This is Lost in the Stacks, and you're listening to our summer show all about summer reading. And now it's time for some music. MARLEE GIVENS: File this set under PS595.S85D74. [MUSIC - HONEYRIDER, "ENDLESS SUMMER"] [MUSIC - PALMZ, "SUMMER DREAMZZZ"] FRED RASCOE: You just heard "Summer Dreamzzz." There's three Zs on the end of that, by the way. That's by Palmz, also with a Z. And we started off with "Endless Summer" by Honeyrider. Those were songs about the dream of summer. [ROCK MUSIC] CHARLIE BENNETT: Our show today is called "The Summer Show," and we talked about summer reading. I don't know if we came to any conclusions, but we definitely talked about summer reading. Let's keep going with summer theme. Real quick hit here at the end-- favorite summer activity. Fred. FRED RASCOE: All I can think about right now is trying to figure out what Wendy's nickname is. So maybe we can do it like puzzle-- can you come up with hieroglyphics that would kind of represent it? And then-- CHARLIE BENNETT: I like it. FRED RASCOE: --kind of decode that over the summer. CHARLIE BENNETT: So Fred will be sculpting his own Rosetta Stone out of hints. And, Fred, don't tell Wendy, but I think you should just call her family and find out. [LAUGHTER] I mean, reporters have the right idea. MARLEE GIVENS: OK, mine is travel. The more the better. We are going to New York week after next. Oh, finally get to go to an in-person conference this summer. Unfortunately, we're not making a beach trip this year, but that's something we always like to do as well. How about Wendy? WENDY HAGENMAIER: Of late-- and I would say, and particularly since living here-- it's just enjoying the lightning bugs, the fireflies at dusk because we did not have those in California when I was doing original summer reading. So that's definitely a treat, and I find myself being really excited and not wanting that month or whatever, those weeks, to end because it's so magical. CHARLIE BENNETT: You know, it's really exciting when someone comes to the US or comes to the South and has never seen lightning bugs before. Like, my wife's parents from London-- the first time they came over, they were mesmerized. MARLEE GIVENS: Yeah, we had a friend from Australia who finally pulled one of us aside and said, do you see those too? [LAUGHTER] CHARLIE BENNETT: My favorite summer activity-- I got to confess-- day drinking on the porch while listening to AC/DC. Roll the credits. [MUSIC - AC/DC, "IT'S A LONG WAY TO THE TOP"] Lost in the Stacks is a collaboration between WREK Atlanta and the Georgia Tech Library, written and produced by Charlie Bennett, Fred Rascoe, Marlee Givens, and Wendy Hagenmaier. FRED RASCOE: Today's show was edited and assembled by Charlie while he watched fireflies through the window, possibly with a drink in his hand. MARLEE GIVENS: Legal counsel and a crate of Australian-strength sunscreen were provided by the Burrus Intellectual Property Law Group in Atlanta, Georgia. WENDY HAGENMAIER: Special thanks to, well, the planet Earth for tilting on its axis. And thanks, as always, to each and every one of you for listening. MARLEE GIVENS: Find us online at lostinthestacks.org, and you can subscribe to our podcast pretty much anywhere you get your audio fix. CHARLIE BENNETT: Hey, Fred. FRED RASCOE: Yeah. CHARLIE BENNETT: How do you tell when a rerun's a summer rerun? FRED RASCOE: I don't know. How? CHARLIE BENNETT: When it happens in the summer. Next week's show is a summer rerun, and we'll be back with "The Industrial Hygienist" the week after that. FRED RASCOE: Sounds interesting. Time for our last song today. There have been several California bands in the show today, mentions of the West Coast. But how can we leave The Beach Boys out of "The Summer Show"? Here's an ode to nostalgia, a warning of the transitory nature of life, celebration of simple pleasures, and the elegy for our youth. CHARLIE BENNETT: Well, that could be any Beach Boys song, except, of course, for the unfortunate "Kokomo." FRED RASCOE: Oh, let's not talk about that one. This is "All Summer Long" from 1964 by The Beach Boys right here on Lost in the Stacks. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll find out that nickname. [MUSIC - THE BEACH BOYS, "ALL SUMMER LONG"] THE BEACH BOYS: (SINGING) Sitting in my car outside your house. Sitting--